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		<title>By: spring</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 08:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and ive noticed the entertainment industry all look undernourished these days...all those movie starlets..and show hosts..seem to be showing a bit of rib these days.......when i listen to those little annorexics on the youth radio..i also become strangely  aware of an inner hunger that seems to be eating away at the spontenaity of the youth of today....(those whiney little squeaky voices)...when i watch the news..i see big hungry eyes looking through the screen at me..they are just acheing for a big juicy steak, surrounded by a sumptious selection of freshly picked and everso slightly blanched vegetables..with a slippery, buttery mash of everso tender potatoes.....it can of course all be washed down with a lowfat creamy mixture of banana milk and honey..with a squirt of whipped cream on the top..the youth of today must think about tommorow as well as getting through today...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and ive noticed the entertainment industry all look undernourished these days&#8230;all those movie starlets..and show hosts..seem to be showing a bit of rib these days&#8230;&#8230;.when i listen to those little annorexics on the youth radio..i also become strangely  aware of an inner hunger that seems to be eating away at the spontenaity of the youth of today&#8230;.(those whiney little squeaky voices)&#8230;when i watch the news..i see big hungry eyes looking through the screen at me..they are just acheing for a big juicy steak, surrounded by a sumptious selection of freshly picked and everso slightly blanched vegetables..with a slippery, buttery mash of everso tender potatoes&#8230;..it can of course all be washed down with a lowfat creamy mixture of banana milk and honey..with a squirt of whipped cream on the top..the youth of today must think about tommorow as well as getting through today&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: spring</title>
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		<dc:creator>spring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 08:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i think that they should introduce mr. humphries to common trash like leelee as she is an inspiration to us all...and they keep introducing barry to boring arty farty.squares and i think his talent has been stifled by those sensible introductions..i think mr humphries will develop a whole new talent after an introduction to the lovely lee lee(dedicated mother of three)...but she is shy and does become aggressive around arty farty squares and would like to meet barry humpries in a more intimate setting for her 40th birthday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i think that they should introduce mr. humphries to common trash like leelee as she is an inspiration to us all&#8230;and they keep introducing barry to boring arty farty.squares and i think his talent has been stifled by those sensible introductions..i think mr humphries will develop a whole new talent after an introduction to the lovely lee lee(dedicated mother of three)&#8230;but she is shy and does become aggressive around arty farty squares and would like to meet barry humpries in a more intimate setting for her 40th birthday.</p>
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		<title>By: lee lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 07:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love barry humphries bigtime....i think everyone else only contributes to his shadow..he is a one off sexi megastar..with a set of dazzling eyes and his manner is incomparable...i want to spend a week in bed with barry humphries..i turn 40 this year (in august)and that would be a great birthday presi...my hubby and my three kids all lead relitavely busy lives ..and they all gave me permission to choose the alltime present of my dreams for my 40th birthday..and barry would be a great contribution to my happiness on that special day...i mean i am a masculine soul trapped in a female body..and i think barry is a feminine starlet trapped in a male body..so me and the kids have decided that me and barry humphries are undisclosed soulmates....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love barry humphries bigtime&#8230;.i think everyone else only contributes to his shadow..he is a one off sexi megastar..with a set of dazzling eyes and his manner is incomparable&#8230;i want to spend a week in bed with barry humphries..i turn 40 this year (in august)and that would be a great birthday presi&#8230;my hubby and my three kids all lead relitavely busy lives ..and they all gave me permission to choose the alltime present of my dreams for my 40th birthday..and barry would be a great contribution to my happiness on that special day&#8230;i mean i am a masculine soul trapped in a female body..and i think barry is a feminine starlet trapped in a male body..so me and the kids have decided that me and barry humphries are undisclosed soulmates&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anasaskia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anasaskia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the concert and it was the first time I had ever seen Les or Dame Edna do anything more than pronounce an art exhibition open.

I could appreciate Les if I viewed him as a modern Pantalone from Commedia dell&#039;arte; that was quite intriguing actually.

However, without this historical background, which I have know idea whether Humphries intended, I found his humour, and some of Edna&#039;s, cheap, like Sam says.

I would expect that a cultural icon would have a more sophisticated or at least idiosyncratic art of humour than what you get from the wannabe comedian at your local bar.

If I want cheap laughs based on race or appearance (he made a joke about Julia Gillard being obliging enough to put a bag over her head when Rudd has his way with her), then I don&#039;t need to pay lots of money and go to the opera house.

If this is really what we can expect from such an Australian icon, that explains the funny thought that occurred to me whilst watching him....

&quot;if reincarnation exists, my spirit is sitting hear right now thinking &#039;what the f*** sort of country have I been born into this time&#039;&quot;

or perhaps more simply

&quot;Is this really my country?&quot;

In a sense, I think this is the kind of thought Humphries wishes to instill in his audience and I can definitely see the value of this.

Like Sam, my concern is for those who perhaps do not have a degree in cultural studies or an inclination for detached social/cultural reflection, who are so immersed in the culture Humphries tries to reflect that they don&#039;t ask &quot;is this really my country?&quot;, they don&#039;t ask anything, they just laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the concert and it was the first time I had ever seen Les or Dame Edna do anything more than pronounce an art exhibition open.</p>
<p>I could appreciate Les if I viewed him as a modern Pantalone from Commedia dell&#8217;arte; that was quite intriguing actually.</p>
<p>However, without this historical background, which I have know idea whether Humphries intended, I found his humour, and some of Edna&#8217;s, cheap, like Sam says.</p>
<p>I would expect that a cultural icon would have a more sophisticated or at least idiosyncratic art of humour than what you get from the wannabe comedian at your local bar.</p>
<p>If I want cheap laughs based on race or appearance (he made a joke about Julia Gillard being obliging enough to put a bag over her head when Rudd has his way with her), then I don&#8217;t need to pay lots of money and go to the opera house.</p>
<p>If this is really what we can expect from such an Australian icon, that explains the funny thought that occurred to me whilst watching him&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;if reincarnation exists, my spirit is sitting hear right now thinking &#8216;what the f*** sort of country have I been born into this time&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>or perhaps more simply</p>
<p>&#8220;Is this really my country?&#8221;</p>
<p>In a sense, I think this is the kind of thought Humphries wishes to instill in his audience and I can definitely see the value of this.</p>
<p>Like Sam, my concern is for those who perhaps do not have a degree in cultural studies or an inclination for detached social/cultural reflection, who are so immersed in the culture Humphries tries to reflect that they don&#8217;t ask &#8220;is this really my country?&#8221;, they don&#8217;t ask anything, they just laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the well-tempered response Grace.

To tell you the truth, i&#039;m not THAT sensitive to comedy which deals with race myself, and in a closed environment I wouldn&#039;t have even thought to bring a negative connotation to Sir Les&#039; performance.

I am also a fan of his work. Here&#039;s my position though: If I could guarantee that the whole audience understood the satirical function of Sir Les, I wouldn&#039;t have mentioned it whatsoever, I would&#039;ve called it &#039;biting satire&#039; or something similar and moved on. But in truth, I can&#039;t guarantee that. I have met people who ARE that racist, they still exist today. I know people of middle-eastern descent who are treated differently by police because of their race, people of asian descent who were bullied at school for the same reason. If this sector exists in society, one could assume it exists within an Opera-House-going audience, in which case the humour takes on different characteristics. Not for everyone, and to be honest, not for me. But I merely recognised the possibility and thought it overstepped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the well-tempered response Grace.</p>
<p>To tell you the truth, i&#8217;m not THAT sensitive to comedy which deals with race myself, and in a closed environment I wouldn&#8217;t have even thought to bring a negative connotation to Sir Les&#8217; performance.</p>
<p>I am also a fan of his work. Here&#8217;s my position though: If I could guarantee that the whole audience understood the satirical function of Sir Les, I wouldn&#8217;t have mentioned it whatsoever, I would&#8217;ve called it &#8216;biting satire&#8217; or something similar and moved on. But in truth, I can&#8217;t guarantee that. I have met people who ARE that racist, they still exist today. I know people of middle-eastern descent who are treated differently by police because of their race, people of asian descent who were bullied at school for the same reason. If this sector exists in society, one could assume it exists within an Opera-House-going audience, in which case the humour takes on different characteristics. Not for everyone, and to be honest, not for me. But I merely recognised the possibility and thought it overstepped.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam,

I didn&#039;t see this show, but I have seen a lot of Sir Les on TV, so I&#039;m well aware of the character and style of Sir Les.

I am also Eurasian if that adds anything to the weight of my opinion. Reading the review and the comments from Sir Les, my take on it is that if the comments had been made by anyone other than Sir Les I would probably have been angry. But coming from Sir Les, it would probably have been shockingly funny!

I think it&#039;s a healthy reaction to be able to laugh at Sir Les in this context. What would be more worrying is if everyone had just fallen silent. I have seen this happen many times when the treatment of aborigines is raised in discussions and that, I can say, says a lot more about Australian society than do Sir Les&#039; antics. 

It&#039;s not so much that I think it&#039;s okay to laugh at someone being called a &#039;slope,&#039; but I think the laughter provoked comes from an innocent place, because people are thinking that in no context could anyone do that onstage or in real life seriously and get away with it. I feel it&#039;s only responsible that I also out myself as a big fan of Barry Humphries!

I think you understand all of this though Sam, and your opinion and reaction is just as valid as that of any other audience member.

Cheers,
Grace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see this show, but I have seen a lot of Sir Les on TV, so I&#8217;m well aware of the character and style of Sir Les.</p>
<p>I am also Eurasian if that adds anything to the weight of my opinion. Reading the review and the comments from Sir Les, my take on it is that if the comments had been made by anyone other than Sir Les I would probably have been angry. But coming from Sir Les, it would probably have been shockingly funny!</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a healthy reaction to be able to laugh at Sir Les in this context. What would be more worrying is if everyone had just fallen silent. I have seen this happen many times when the treatment of aborigines is raised in discussions and that, I can say, says a lot more about Australian society than do Sir Les&#8217; antics. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so much that I think it&#8217;s okay to laugh at someone being called a &#8216;slope,&#8217; but I think the laughter provoked comes from an innocent place, because people are thinking that in no context could anyone do that onstage or in real life seriously and get away with it. I feel it&#8217;s only responsible that I also out myself as a big fan of Barry Humphries!</p>
<p>I think you understand all of this though Sam, and your opinion and reaction is just as valid as that of any other audience member.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Grace</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mei-Ling - While I don&#039;t really think that there is anything negative about being left-leaning (just as people have a right to be right-leaning) i&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t agree. Perhaps I am &#039;poncey&#039; for believing what I do, but if so, that is something I will easily live with.

My use of the term &#039;quite&#039; intelligent is not intended to lessen his perceived intelligence in any way. The dictionary says that the word quite means: completely, wholly, or entirely; actually, really, or truly; to a considerable extent or degree. Under all of these meanings, I believe that Humphries is &#039;quite&#039; intelligent. 

Were you at the show in question? I read other reviews which failed to mention the incident and assumed that this was a particular night, given that he can&#039;t have had the same people in the front row each time. That or they decided not to mention it. I considered doing the same but came to the conclusion that if this is supposed to be a review, it would remiss of me to leave out the one thing which obviously stood out from Sir Les, just as I pointed out Barry Humphries&#039; outstanding eloquence as himself. I find it hard to believe that you would not be offended if you attended any other show, and were referred to as a nip or slope.

There is no motive to my thoughts. In fact, if you read my review as attacking Humphries, then you have misread the tone. Though I am critical, that is the position of a critique. Shall we be labelled as envious everytime we give a bad review of anything? If that is the case, then the entire genre should pack up now, because it WOULD be drivel if it were guaranteed to be soft/complimentary.

As for being envious? Absolutely, I agree with you one hundred percent. I am envious of humphries career, he is a man who is far more eloquent than me, and a performer with far more gusto than I possess. I am envious of his talents in every single way. Does this make me want to bring him down to my level with a bad review? not one bit. Actually, if anything, I considered omitting my thoughts on the incident BECAUSE of the respect I have for him as a performer, but in the long run decided it was better to stay honest. This is not my only review, and I&#039;d like people to know that I provide a review of both pros and cons, as I see it, such is the subjective nature of the piece.

I don&#039;t intend for this to become a sledging match, because we obviously have views on either side of the spectrum (given that you label me as left wing, you lead me to believe you must be right) and we will never find a common ground. Carol Middleton (quoted above) didn&#039;t mention that specific incident and I didn&#039;t tell her that her review was drivel because she didn&#039;t see things my way. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if my reviews did nothing but espouse other people&#039;s opinions, I wouldn&#039;t need to respond to the show whatsoever.

Personally, I felt uncomfortable with the use of those derogatory terms and thus, I mentioned them in my review. I never claimed to be completely objective or to speak for you, or anyone else.

Thank you for the comment, and my sincere apologies for the length of this reply but I feel if you are able to misunderstand the place I am coming from, that it would be worth clearing up if not for you, than for other readers who may feel the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mei-Ling &#8211; While I don&#8217;t really think that there is anything negative about being left-leaning (just as people have a right to be right-leaning) i&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t agree. Perhaps I am &#8216;poncey&#8217; for believing what I do, but if so, that is something I will easily live with.</p>
<p>My use of the term &#8216;quite&#8217; intelligent is not intended to lessen his perceived intelligence in any way. The dictionary says that the word quite means: completely, wholly, or entirely; actually, really, or truly; to a considerable extent or degree. Under all of these meanings, I believe that Humphries is &#8216;quite&#8217; intelligent. </p>
<p>Were you at the show in question? I read other reviews which failed to mention the incident and assumed that this was a particular night, given that he can&#8217;t have had the same people in the front row each time. That or they decided not to mention it. I considered doing the same but came to the conclusion that if this is supposed to be a review, it would remiss of me to leave out the one thing which obviously stood out from Sir Les, just as I pointed out Barry Humphries&#8217; outstanding eloquence as himself. I find it hard to believe that you would not be offended if you attended any other show, and were referred to as a nip or slope.</p>
<p>There is no motive to my thoughts. In fact, if you read my review as attacking Humphries, then you have misread the tone. Though I am critical, that is the position of a critique. Shall we be labelled as envious everytime we give a bad review of anything? If that is the case, then the entire genre should pack up now, because it WOULD be drivel if it were guaranteed to be soft/complimentary.</p>
<p>As for being envious? Absolutely, I agree with you one hundred percent. I am envious of humphries career, he is a man who is far more eloquent than me, and a performer with far more gusto than I possess. I am envious of his talents in every single way. Does this make me want to bring him down to my level with a bad review? not one bit. Actually, if anything, I considered omitting my thoughts on the incident BECAUSE of the respect I have for him as a performer, but in the long run decided it was better to stay honest. This is not my only review, and I&#8217;d like people to know that I provide a review of both pros and cons, as I see it, such is the subjective nature of the piece.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t intend for this to become a sledging match, because we obviously have views on either side of the spectrum (given that you label me as left wing, you lead me to believe you must be right) and we will never find a common ground. Carol Middleton (quoted above) didn&#8217;t mention that specific incident and I didn&#8217;t tell her that her review was drivel because she didn&#8217;t see things my way. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if my reviews did nothing but espouse other people&#8217;s opinions, I wouldn&#8217;t need to respond to the show whatsoever.</p>
<p>Personally, I felt uncomfortable with the use of those derogatory terms and thus, I mentioned them in my review. I never claimed to be completely objective or to speak for you, or anyone else.</p>
<p>Thank you for the comment, and my sincere apologies for the length of this reply but I feel if you are able to misunderstand the place I am coming from, that it would be worth clearing up if not for you, than for other readers who may feel the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mei-Ling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mei-Ling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a boring piece of drivel.  I am Eurasian (who has lived in Japan) and was not in the slighest offended by Sir Les.  You are just espousing left leaning poncey nonsense.  What I did find offensive however, is your description of Sir Barry as being &quot;quite&quot; intelligent.  I do wonder what your motive is Mr Webster...  Spot of the green-eyed monster lurking somewhere perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a boring piece of drivel.  I am Eurasian (who has lived in Japan) and was not in the slighest offended by Sir Les.  You are just espousing left leaning poncey nonsense.  What I did find offensive however, is your description of Sir Barry as being &#8220;quite&#8221; intelligent.  I do wonder what your motive is Mr Webster&#8230;  Spot of the green-eyed monster lurking somewhere perhaps?</p>
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